Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. Thank you Kerry. Prosecutors did not seek the death penalty, so Said was automatically sentenced to life in prison with no parole. They are total bs. I can only suggest you read through my comments again, only more thoroughly. Kidnapped and killed? MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. Watch Wrong Man season 2, and then come back and make comment. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. The defense also criticized Irving Police and federal investigators, claiming they did not properly investigate the case or look for other suspects. No explanation given. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. And its been bad. Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. Youll have to make do with what you see here. Yeah, no. Hardly an argument, more a figment of your overconfidence in your opinion. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. His nephew, Islam, the brother to Amina and Sarah and son to Yaser, pleaded guilty to the same charges in June 2021 and received 10 years. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. 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Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. And she called 911. I wanted to get out of there.. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Walmart woe. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. Nope. In North Carolina, she reportedly enjoyed some success as a horse trader, riding instructor, and rodeo competitor. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. Why would the LAPD destroy the evidence, Patricias sister Arletta and other family members still ask to this day. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. DALLAS, Texas - A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. Tiffany, it is amazing you have all the answers to these murders! They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Look into it. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? The fact that Jerome was gay was left out of the trial altogether. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. In pleading guilty, Islam Said admitted that evidence proved he committed the crimes charged in the superseding indictment filed in November 2020. I noticed quite a few errors myself. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! I do. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. Great catch. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. Patricia Prue also expressed remorse for her husband's actions. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. We really thought she was dead all those years. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. Said showed no emotion as the verdict was read. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. Lawyers pleaded their cases in closing arguments to 12 jurors and three alternates for nearly two hours Tuesday morning. On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Ill always say that Tommy Lynn Sells murdered the Routier boys OR the father Darrin did it. This is the most ridiculous take ever! Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. Patricia Prue's lawyer Brian Marsicovetere told the court on Friday that his client was "severely mentally ill," and that the case should be used as an example for why the state should focus on developing a strong mental health system. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? Jenkins was reported missing after her vehicle was found idling with her 2-year-old son inside. More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. She embraced spontaneity and diligence. This story has been shared 114,982 times. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult They were people that knew her, not Andrew. In a surprise move, Said testified on Monday. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. . The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. 8/9/2022 Yaser Said was convicted of capital murder Tuesday in the 2008 fatal shootings of his two teenage daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Highly charged case. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Thats my life.. Todays arrest of their father, Yaser Said brings us closer to ensuring justice is served on their behalf.. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? She is legally blind, has stage four cancer that has spread to her breasts and her brain, causing her to lose control of her bodily functions, leaving her diapered, and has been given six months to live. Throughout the process, she heard many community members waiting for the proceedings to be over. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. But Im sure that was just a coincidence LOL. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. Jealousy was the motive. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Am I missing something? If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. I didnt believe it. Both were deceased. How about the two eyewitnesses that identified her alive days after her disappearance. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Patricia Wright I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow. I have never seen anything this egregious., Requests for Proposals and Qualifications, Families to Amend California's Three Strikes (FACTS), life without possibility of parole (LWOP), National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), What California should do with people convicted of violent felonies, The Folsom 6 who stood up for Yogi are vindicated. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm I expect she will admit it one day. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH.
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